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Ella hasn't had her daily nap for well over a week now. I've tried everything to get her to sleep but she fights it. She's nearly 18months now and runs around like a loony, climbs everywhere and must be exhausted but she doesn't seem to sleep enough... Has anyone else experienced this?
Also i'm not sure if i'm feeding Ella too much or too little really and was wondering if any of you had any advice. She is very tall for her age and the HV seems fine about her weight especially as i told her she eats alot of fruit and veg and i only allow her chocolate or crisps on rare occassions.

Here's an example of what she will have in a day. I've given two different sets to show the varity.

morning. porridge/cereal or one piece of wholemeal bread toasted and a cup of tea
mid morning. a piece of fruit and juice
lunch (depending on the time and who is looking after her.) omelette or a sandwich or chicken bits and juice
dinner tuna/chicken pasta and veg or steamed fish and mash/veg and a petit filou for afters.
night time drink of max milk about 9oz.


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Feb. 24th, 2007 08:55 am (UTC)
I think that sounds ok, Abbie is quite a random eater, somedays she'll be really picky and not want much and others she's into everything. This is what she had yesterday:

Breakfast - Milk (about 6oz) and toast.
Mid morning - Apple, water.
Lunch - French Toast, water and a yoghurt.
Snack - Banana, water.
Dinner - Fish fingers, water.
Bedtime - 9oz milk.

Seems a lot when you write it down actually!
Feb. 24th, 2007 10:22 am (UTC)
Ella isn't a big fan of water at all :( i wish she was
Feb. 24th, 2007 11:01 am (UTC)
We had same issue with Amy re water but the hv recommended flavoured water... Morrisons do some in 500ml bottled (5 for 1.50) orange, lime and lemon, strawberry, blackcurrant) Amy loves them all and takes plenty.
Feb. 24th, 2007 11:12 am (UTC)
You need to watch the sugar content in some flavoured waters though, some of them are shocking!
Feb. 24th, 2007 11:32 am (UTC)
the morrisons one don't have any sugar I them or that sweetner they warn about (can't remember name)
Feb. 24th, 2007 11:45 am (UTC)
I'll have to have a look for those ones, I used to give Abbie the Asda flavoured water til my friend who is a dentist, told me about all the hidden sugars and scared me off!
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Feb. 24th, 2007 12:11 pm (UTC)
Thats the one
Feb. 25th, 2007 08:52 am (UTC)
we tried the fruit shoot h20's and she wasn't keen. I've tried tescos flavoured water too.. she just isn't interested. So we basically dilute the diluted stuff so it's just a tiny amount of juice... she's a thirsty little girl always asking for juice which is why mum tried her with tea. If she kept drinking milk instead she'd end up putting on too much weight etc...
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Feb. 24th, 2007 10:23 am (UTC)
yeah i've basically let her get on with it this week (i drafted that post last week hahah) she's been going to bed at 7 mostly now rather than 8ish. I also forgot to mention she has a snack in the afternoon usually a bit of fruit or yoghurt coated rasins and she may have milk in the afternoon too. c
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Feb. 24th, 2007 10:39 am (UTC)
and that's the thing isn't it they say too much juice is bad for them... i dilute down diluted juice that's probably wrong too lol
Feb. 24th, 2007 11:03 am (UTC)
my hv recommended flavoured water as an alternative to juice - Amy loves it.
Feb. 24th, 2007 09:28 am (UTC)
Well Amy has..

Breakfast - 7oz bottle of Full fat milk (though she'll take anywhere between half and the whole bottle).. She'll then either have a bowl of cereal or porridge.. and sometimes she'll have a slice of toast... or she'll have some slices of Apple and Banana with mummy.

Lunch Either Sandwhich and Water or fishfingers/potato waffle and water

Dinner Either potato waffle and fish finger (if she didnt have it at lunch) or mince with potatoes and vegetables and gravy or a jar of baby food (such as veg pasta etc). with water followed by a desert (custard pot or yoghurt or fruitpura or something like that

Snacks may be yoghurt, bits of cheese.. if my parents had their way she'd have crisps/chocolate/biscuits as treats but I try to control that by getting Goodies "no junk" crisps and the biscuits which are only swetened by fruit.

Supper 8oz Milk - she takes the bottle herself but likes to be sat on either mine or Daves knee for a cuddle.. 9/10 she'll finish the bottle lay back and thats her till the next morning!

Feb. 24th, 2007 09:31 am (UTC)
Oh and Amy is a bit of a nightmare for taking naps too.. She'll desperately need one (rubbing eyes, grizzling etc) but she'll try and fight it.. i'd say about 50% of the time I win as for some reason having her laid accross my legs whilst I rub her head/tummy is a sure way of getting her asleep hehe..

When she does nap she'll be down between 40 mins and 2 hours - if she has the 2 hours then we get her ready for bed a bit later (8/8:30pm rather than 7/7:30pm) and it usually works out quite well ;o)
Feb. 24th, 2007 10:25 am (UTC)
glad to know Elles isnt the only one hehe we basically do the same as you at the mo :)
Feb. 24th, 2007 09:42 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say that it really isn't recommended that you give a child of her age cups of tea. The caffeine can inhibit iron absorbtion and from what I remember reading they shouldn't be allowed it until the age of around 5. Would be better to give her some diluted orange juice (vit c helps with iron absorbtion) or some milk.

As for sleeping I'd keep offering her the chance to have a nap or some quiet time cuddling up with you but if she really doesn't want it then don't get too stressed out about it. As other people have said, she'll probably just want to go to bed a bit earlier in the evenings :-)
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Feb. 24th, 2007 10:28 am (UTC)
tis definitely one of those things where they say one thing and then reccomend another... as you said it's about your own decisions... i didn't know that tea was bad for a kiddie so i've learnt something new lol
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Feb. 24th, 2007 10:44 am (UTC)
Hahah well it has been known that she'll sit cuddling clyde with her cup in one hand, usually pouring it on him ;x while watching tv...

which btw apparently children under 3's shouldn't watch any telly at all cos yep.... it's bad for them
Feb. 24th, 2007 11:34 am (UTC)
I remember seeing that thing about children under 3 and tv, what a brilliant way to make mums feel even more guilty! Figure everything in moderation so whilst I wouldn't sit a child infront of the tv for hours at a time, sitting down to watch something quietly and then talking with their parent about it afterwards could actually be helpful for both parent and child. Surely these researchers have better things to do??
Feb. 25th, 2007 08:55 am (UTC)
well Ella's 17 months, has been walking since she was ten months, is very active and she can say well over 75words and associate them with things and she often points at the telly and says cat, dog, red, tamber etc. She's allowed to watch a couple of hours but generally she only sits there for a little while watching then goes off to play so it's there in the background :) So pah to the researchers and their guilt :P
I think these researchers just like to get big grants so they aim at these kinds of things
Feb. 24th, 2007 11:06 am (UTC)
HeHe I am 27 and still have baby tea.... or as Dave describes it "hot water knocked stupid" lol!
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Feb. 25th, 2007 09:02 am (UTC)
I saw you post something along those lines the other week... I don't think i had any time to comment on it or maybe i did... but yep one minute it's ooo don't eat too much fish during pregnancy, then ooo eat lots of fish you'll get a brainy baby.
I was talking to my mum about the tea thing she replied... well i brought you three up fine and there's certainly nothing wrong with Ella. That got us talking about the whole formula/bf debate etc and how forumla mum's are made to feel guilty.
She said you're her mum you do what you think is right... and i believe that you always know what's right for your child ...
LoL @ jam sarnies and ribena... those were the good old days
Feb. 25th, 2007 08:56 am (UTC)
I don't drink tea anymore :( I stopped drinking it when i was pregnant, had a few cups after Elles was born and then went off it again... We just scare the water with the tea bag to be honest lol it's dip waggle and that's it.
Feb. 24th, 2007 11:29 am (UTC)
caffeine was the first thing that came to mind, I blame my pregnancy brain! I just put the recommendation down in my head as "no tea/coffee" and didn't fully remember the reason why. That said my little girl is happy with milk, water or juice so it's never been something we felt the need to try her with
Feb. 24th, 2007 10:27 am (UTC)
to be totally honest my mum started giving her the tea. i've been working full time and unfortunately although i've banned sweeties/choccie etc and asked the carers to give her fruit etc i can't 'police' them as i don't wish to offend :)
Thanks for the heads up about the reccomendation although they're always changing their mind about these things aren't they.
Feb. 24th, 2007 11:43 am (UTC)
My Mum wanted to give Abbie tea for ages and I kept saying no, then I finally said ok let her try it. She hated it :p
Feb. 24th, 2007 01:08 pm (UTC)
I give Beebe fruit tea / caramel tea / green tea.. as it's what I drink. She doesn't have it very often but she does love it.. there's no caffeine or sugar in it and it has a mild taste and a thing of tea-bags is probably cheaper than a bottle of fruity water?

Worth a go..

As for the naps, as others have said I'd go with what seems right, if she's fine without one I'd still be encouraging her to have one but if she doesn't actually sleep at least you've had 25 minutes quiet time together - which I think is important!

Feb. 25th, 2007 09:04 am (UTC)
the tea idea sounds great :) thanks i'll give that a whirl.
Unfortunately because i work i have to have the inlaws and my mum take care of Ella. My mum has the same routine as me but my inlaws are always dragging Ella out and about for walks and stuff so there's no routine in that day ...
She's never been a big sleeper so i guess she just doesn't really need her naps anymore
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